friendlyuser1
Posts:121
Insaf Shaheen
 | | 28/12/2007 2:15 AM |
| There are leaders who are content with doing lip service only, and there are leaders who take actions and do something practically and physically symbolic.
Today Musharraf, Chaudhry's, Qazi, Imran Khan and all these so called leaders fall in the lip service category.
Nawaz Sharif has proved himself as a true leader, a lion at heart, and has truely lived upto representative leadership by reaching the hospital and speaking his heart.
In REPRESENTATIVE LEADERSHIP, a leader is supposed to represent its people be it in the assembly, in power, in office, in opposition and even at funerals and ceremonies. It is an embarrasment and extremely shameful for PTI leadership to be asleep as usual as the events unfold.
While the leadership's delayed and long over due lip service has kept them on record, it is depressing to note how the Leadership and IK himself has again lacked to follow up words with actions.
My questions to the leadership:
1. Why couldnt IK visit the hospital and pay his condelences and express his grief and shock personally ?
There is a difference between the three:
a. commentators [appears on tv expresses
grief and stuff and paints a picture]
b. common man [when Media asks reaction,
expresses grief and stuff]
c. leaders [suppose to be in the midst of
things leading, representing the
people and "being there" for the
people and the effected ones]
2. Niether the PTI nor IK's statement
demanded any inquiry or investigation.
The goverment is lucky to have stupid
opposition like this. All the
goverment has to do now is find some
poor fellows head and case closed.
Isnt it our duty to pressurize the
goverment to find the gunmen who fired
5 shots also ?
The people needed their leader to be there, to express solidarity, pay condolences and to bring unity, calm, to help stabilize Pakistan by actually uniting and standing with others on this occasion. Thats what a leader is suppose to do.
As Iam writing this i have heard that Qazi is leaving with his party to attend the funeral. I am anxiously waiting for some PTI member or leader to be at the funeral. Iam almost certain, the PTI leadership will let me down once again!
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acidmir
Posts:72
Insaf Tiger
| | 28/12/2007 2:21 AM |
| LOL!...id rather let the Admin answer your Angry Post!...Please Dont blame anyone--there's nothing to get furious about!
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host
Posts:1090
Insaf Shaheen
Admin, Strategy
| | 28/12/2007 3:14 AM |
| | friendlyuser1, just for your information Imran Khan was away in India when BB was assassinated. | |
"When one bright intellect meets another bright intellect, the light increases and the Way becomes clear -- Rumi | |
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friendlyuser1
Posts:121
Insaf Shaheen
| | 28/12/2007 3:36 AM |
| @ Admin
1. How many light years and lunar years is India from Pakistan ?
People are arriving from England (thats in Europe, another continent! ) for the funeral. But Alas ! Ik is so far away in India
Remember on 12th May 2007, IK criticised Musharraf for not cancelling his Rent a Rally and travel to Karachi to deal with the carnige.
Now did IK cancel his trip and travel to Pakistan to deal with the tragedy ? Hypocricy ? Asking of others what you yourself wont do ?
2. IK said next 48 hours are crucial for Pakistan. Here is a reference: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/28/wbhutto728.xml
Realistically, does anyone hope PTI leadership will contribute anything to unite, calm, stabilize different parties ? and do something meaningful ? otherthan statements in these 48 hours. PTI is going waste a crucial window again.
3. My post reads SHAME ON PTI LEADERSHIP. In the end i expressed a hope some PTI leader will attend the funeral. | | | |
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host
Posts:1090
Insaf Shaheen
Admin, Strategy
| | 28/12/2007 3:54 AM |
| I don't know how long it takes to travel from Bombay to Larkana, but I am sure Imran will try his best to reach the funeral. Your posts are excessively cynical.
If you don't have any confidence in PTI leadership, then you should try to work hard within the party to change it, or you have the option to leave the party. I am being frank just like yourself, so don't mind it. | |
"When one bright intellect meets another bright intellect, the light increases and the Way becomes clear -- Rumi | |
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Wombat
Posts:96
Insaf Tiger
| | 28/12/2007 4:15 AM |
| I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion and we shouldn't hit back at people whose opinions are not in conformity with ours. After all, we want this to be an open party where everyone should be allowed to express their opinions freely.
In my opinion, the moderators of a forum should facilitate an atmosphere of healthy debate and constructive criticism, which is the purpose of a forum. By restricting the free flow of ideas, any party risks marching into the political wilderness by alienating potential members and workers. | | | |
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amajid.malik
Posts:204
Insaf Shaheen
Moderator
| | 28/12/2007 6:33 AM |
| Dear friendlyuser1,
Your comments are based on emotions and not on facts.
fact1. Imran Khan has already given a strong statment regarding this tragic incident, unfortunately unreported by major media.
fact2. Imran Khan shouldn't attend funeral, as he was strong critic of BB and you can expect blacklash from PPP supporters. Do you care for life of Imran Khan? Nawaz Sharif case is different, he was in good terms with BB recently. I am sure Imran Khan will meet PPP leadership to condole
fact 3. He has already given statement in support of people of Sindh and will condole personally at some less emotional platform. There is nothing much he can do for those angry protestors who are burnign the things( those who have not been even asked by PPP leaders to cool down). | | | |
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amajid.malik
Posts:204
Insaf Shaheen
Moderator
| | 28/12/2007 6:42 AM |
| fact4. Imran Khan has already asked for inquiry if you have read his statment.
fact 5. We were never in no love with BB and PPP. Yes her tragic death is a sad event , so is the death of those who were killed in any other incident. I am sure Imran Khan will do whatever is in his capacity to calm people of Pakistan who are sad and his statment is a proof of it. Other actions will follow bit not at the cost of his life which would be foolishness.
fact6. Imran Khan is not reponsible for all this mess, nor he has a pre-planned strategy to deal with it.
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amajid.malik
Posts:204
Insaf Shaheen
Moderator
| | 28/12/2007 6:45 AM |
| | If you think Imran Khan only meant a lip service when he issued an statment, it means you already don't have any trust on the integrity of your leadership. If case is so , your whole statment is based on this supposition. | | | |
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alich76
Posts:178
Insaf Shaheen
| | 28/12/2007 6:48 AM |
| There is no point to expose yourself to angry mob and loose your life. IK must not do this. BB's murder is another example how strongly military establishment is gripping our country and doesn't want people to be free at any cost.
IK is doing a great job by standing principally against establishment. It is utmost important to stand against this cruel military if we want to avoid such tragedies in future(if there is a future?????) | | | |
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nasirmaan
Posts:140
Insaf Shaheen
| | 28/12/2007 7:31 AM |
| I agree with Majid and others that Imran Khan 's decision to not attend funeral was right.
You might have hear and watched, as myself did, that mob there at Bhutto house severly manhandled PPP 's Jahangir Badar for being from Punjab.
Situation was very intense there and people had strong emotions against Punjab. | | | |
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Gujranwalia
Posts:393
Insaf Shaheen
| | 28/12/2007 7:40 AM |
| Why Shall IK go to Larkana????
Just to compromise on his own security and get killed.
Can any one suggesting that grantee IK 's security in Larkana.
Well we all know this will be the perfect oppertunity for low lives , Establishment, MQM and Mr 10 percent to settle the score from the political arena.
Please guys can you go over things before posting them on this website. | | | |
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Integrity&Justice
Posts:2
Insaf Member
| | 28/12/2007 7:42 AM |
| I disagree with Friendlyuser when he/she says "Nawaz Sharif has proved himself as a true leader, a lion at heart, and has truely lived upto representative leadership by reaching the hospital and speaking his heart."
I dont trust the Sharif family and he probably wanted to use this as an 'opportunity' for political gains. How do we know?
With regards to PPP, in BB's recent interview she said that she was against people having private armies - her family has a private army with atleast 7000 men.
The PPP UK leader said on Sky news yesterday that the Pakistan Army should step in....So does PPP really believe in democracy if they are callling for Army chief to step in. Their policies are only suited to themselves and not Pakistan.
It is sad what happened to her and this is not right. However, are people forgetting how many people have died because of the billions that she took from the country's treasury and therefore there was no money for medicine, hospitals, educational institues, etc.
Her father didnt even call himself pakistani even in 1950's because he still wanted to claim the land he left behind in India.
There was a woman on TV a couple of weeks back who siad that PPP gangsters looted the people of thier town daily and no one could do anything.
It is a sad time in Pakistan but why are PPP members behaving in the manner that they are in pakistan, destroying businesses and other peoples propreties.
Is this is what PPP is all about | | | |
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Gujranwalia
Posts:393
Insaf Shaheen
| | 28/12/2007 7:42 AM |
| IK is a great leader and man of principal.
IK never ever makes empty promises. | | | |
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asif238
Posts:690
Insaf Shaheen
| | 28/12/2007 7:49 AM |
| | IK has made a right decision, He should keep himself at a distance from the traditional politics of emotions & voilance. | | | |
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Gujranwalia
Posts:393
Insaf Shaheen
| | 28/12/2007 7:49 AM |
| IK should never ever go to the Larkana as a matter of Principal.
90 billion rupees could have provided employment oppertunites to thousands of young Pakistani , hence provented, thousands of suicides, murder and other things.
90 Billion of Pakistan peoples money was looted and why should a man like IK go to the very persons funeral who oversaw that.
How many childern were snatched food bites from their mouths, and hence forced to go into cycle of depression/ violance.
Death is certain to everybody.
When a person dies its between him/her and Allah.
But I dont see how IK going to some place can bring some one back.
Or it would be an act of heroism.
People who are putting these unjustified demands are really navie and stupid.
IK did the right thing. | | | |
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funkichunki
Posts:343
Insaf Shaheen
Moderator
| | 28/12/2007 8:06 AM |
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@friendlyuser1
travelling from bombay to larkana becomes impossible when PIA cancels all their flights for security reasons. so get your facts straight.
and by the way your lion nawaz shareef has immediately announced boycott of elections. Most probably he scared of chaudhris cuz muharaf's fav candidate for PM has passed away. and now rigging is the only option for musharaf. hence immediately joining hands with IK and rest of APDM. So who was on the righ? our IK or your LION?
APC has been called in by musharraf, so now hopefully by the will of ALLAH things could shape towards a democracy that comes from public power.
GAs stations, banks, government offices, police cars, etc are being set on fire, ppl dieing all over the country. ppl have beaten up police officers in gujrat, factories have been set on fire, banks have been robbed. if you were leading the public who does not agree with PPP's pro musharraf and pro USA stance I think security is important.
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cancer
Posts:13
Insaf Member
| | 28/12/2007 8:17 AM |
| I have noticed that GEO has banned IK and no coverage whatsover is being given to IK. I think it was part of the deal to get back on air. Thats the reason people seem to think IK is mute on Benazir's assasination.
IK is a leader of reason and not one who plays with peoples emotions and NS's call for boycott has vindicated his stand. | | | |
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asif238
Posts:690
Insaf Shaheen
| | 28/12/2007 8:30 AM |
| The olny reason NS & Altaf was there on media just to show off & encash the moment politicaly. NS had a very strong association with Ziaism even in his premiership he used to attend Zia anniversaries. Hes still an establishment guy with a democratic skin just like Mush.
IK should always keep himself at a distance from voilance & emotions. We are tired of the ploitics of voilance, emotions & hatered. To attend a funeral or to give a statement is not the criteria, the criteria is whos struggling(IK) for a cuase not who's cashing(NS&Altaf) the cause. So think with a cool head & don't get away with emotions. | | | |
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funkichunki
Posts:343
Insaf Shaheen
Moderator
| | 28/12/2007 8:41 AM |
| | NS was there becuz he was going to address a public gather soon after BB so he was withing a few minutes reach of this incident. and since he was an ally of PPP he had to show up. | | | |
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